Meeting date: 11 apr 2006 Members (asterisk for those attending): *Arpad Muranyi, *Bob Ross, *Todd Westerhoff, *Mike LaBonte, *Paul Fernando, *Barry Katz, Walter Katz, Ken Willis, *Ian Dodd Lance Wang *Richard Ward *Doug White ------------- Review of ARs: AR: Richard prepare short presentation on TI design - Done ------------- Richard Ward presentation - Presentation ward_serdes_20060411.pdf emailed to reflector. - "Serdes Introduction and options for Macro-modelling" - uploaded to http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/macromodel_wip/ - There are many standards for SerDes protocols. - Some DC-coupled, some AC. - Some Power-referenced, some ground. - Example eye diagrams: - At 3.126GHz the eye looks pretty good even without EQ. - At 6.25GHz there is no eye without EQ. - "Clock/Data Recovery II" method not suited for macro-model. - COntains "secret sauce": leaning toward encrypted AMS delivery. - Receiver Equalization II predicts ISI from previous data. - Likely candidates for macro-model implementation: - Clocked comparator with slew-based offset. - Gain/attenuation - Programmable FIR TX - Unlikely candidates for macro-model implementation: - Clock/data recovery or EQ as components - Small blocks may be too fine-grain to be useful. To be or not to be --Arpad - If only the simpler designs can be macro-modeled, where do we stand? - Macros give us SPICE compatibility; do we need it? - Additional level of difficulty: Need to look at received eye diagrams using recovered clock. - We could create higher level building blocks like PLLs. - Mentor has been able to reuse such blocks, but with some tweaking of internals, not totally parameterized. - May be difficult to implement in SPICE, but can be done. - Which AMS language statements can't be translated to a macromodel? - Hard to say, but AMS models have MANY lines of code. - Coding efficiency of circuit language may be the limiting factor. ------------- Next meeting: Tuesday 18 apr 2006 12:00pm PT